Discussion
Loading...

Post

  • About
  • Code of conduct
  • Privacy
  • About Bonfire
Charlie Stross
@cstross@wandering.shop  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

Because the Calibre ebook library software just acquired AI garbage (as of 8.16.2, this week), it has *already* been forked. For AI-free Calibre, seek out clbre:

https://github.com/grimthorpe/clbre

GitHub

GitHub - grimthorpe/clbre: A fork of Calibre called Clbre, because the AI is stripped out.

A fork of Calibre called Clbre, because the AI is stripped out. - grimthorpe/clbre
  • Copy link
  • Flag this post
  • Block
Ruled by thieves
@racingdaily@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@cstross If you have the Portable app version, you can block the update by renaming the app's folder. Perhaps change it to 'Calibre Portable XXX' or something

  • Copy link
  • Flag this comment
  • Block
ax6761
@ax6761@freeradical.zone replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@cstross Nice (re: name of the fork).

  • Copy link
  • Flag this comment
  • Block
Henrik Hemrin
@hehemrin@mastodon.nu replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@cstross I have noticed Calibre has added AI, at least from 8.11 in September.

My Linux distribution is on 8.5 so I have not tested myself.

But the little I have read in Calibre release notes and other documentation, isn't Calibre AI optional; both regarding connecting to external AI as well as running local AI?

So isn't AI in Calibre an option to use for anyone who want to use it and for other simply a not used nor desired feature?

  • Copy link
  • Flag this comment
  • Block
jack
@jackeric@beige.party replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@cstross oh that's a clever name

  • Copy link
  • Flag this comment
  • Block
slash
@agreeable_landfall@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 2 days ago

@cstross @janeishly I've actually just not upgraded. I had a few that I needed to roll back, due to prereq's I wasn't willing to install, or just bad code. I've admired Kovid Goyal, to do that much work and help others. I've seen him active on various forums, wanting to help people get more out of his gift. But I believe all software has an inflection point, where it has enough features and is relatively bug free, and changes just make it worse. So once I'm happy, I just leave it alone.

  • Copy link
  • Flag this comment
  • Block
maaneeack
@maaneeack@noc.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@cstross Arcalibre, https://codeberg.org/rereading/arcalibre was forked for the same reason, like @kouhai shared earlier

Codeberg.org

arcalibre

A snapshot of Calibre (https://github.com/kovidgoyal/calibre) as of 5 December 2025, with the goal of producing a stable and AI-free build.
  • Copy link
  • Flag this comment
  • Block
Steven Zekowski
@steve_zeke@freeradical.zone replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@cstross
I don’t use it often (prefer physical books), but I’ve had success with Foliate.

https://johnfactotum.github.io/foliate/

#OpenSource #linux #FreeOpenSourceSoftware

Foliate — E-book Reader for Linux

  • Copy link
  • Flag this comment
  • Block
Chris Hessert 🐧 🇺🇦
@chessert@mastodon.online replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@cstross

Wow, that’s disappointing. Good grief!

  • Copy link
  • Flag this comment
  • Block
Si Dawson
@sidawson@mas.to replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@cstross Ok, that name is kinda clever. Lucky naming on Calibre's part.

  • Copy link
  • Flag this comment
  • Block
Carlos Gillespie
@carlosgillespie@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@cstross wow, what a great name 😂

  • Copy link
  • Flag this comment
  • Block
Oskar
@oskard@mastodon.nu replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@cstross They also choose to put it in the core product instead of using the plugin system Calibre has.

Which there might be some reason for, but I’m afraid the reason is FOMO

  • Copy link
  • Flag this comment
  • Block
not a martian, honest
@kyonshi@dice.camp replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@cstross honestly though, AFAIK as I know it's just an option to connect an LLM. A stupid idea, but the outrage is completely outsized to what this is about, and who is going to maintain that fork anyway?

  • Copy link
  • Flag this comment
  • Block
Mindiell
@Mindiell@mamot.fr replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@cstross yes, keeping it on github is *perfect*...

  • Copy link
  • Flag this comment
  • Block
bit101
@bit101@mstdn.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@cstross noooooo

  • Copy link
  • Flag this comment
  • Block
Harry Meier
@hjmiii@wandering.shop replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@cstross
Funny name, but I'm not getting the strength of this backlash. The feature was just an interface that a user could choose to connect to a LLM if they wanted to put in the extra work. No forced AI, no enshitifying. Just a guy in Mumbai with a Patreon and a git repo who added a hook people are free to use or ignore. Calibre has a million other useless features like that. This one just hit a nerve

  • Copy link
  • Flag this comment
  • Block
64 Islands Aroha Cooperative
@airshipper@cloudisland.nz replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@hjmiii @cstross this was my open source company’s approach to ‘ai’ as well, i think it’s fine - here is a framework and components for integrating an llm (or even a deterministic decision maker) have at it if that’s what you think you need; we’re not spending more dev effort than that

  • Copy link
  • Flag this comment
  • Block
Harry Meier
@hjmiii@wandering.shop replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@cstross
It's more telling just how raw the AI nerve is among the book community and how toxic oss culture is. The "refusal to remove" was one comment in a forum saying people don't have to implement the feature (NOTE: It takes work to turn it on) As of yesterday it looked like no one even tried to talk to the guy beyond that. We just jump straight to forking the project. Who's going to support the new fork? Are they going to fix the bugs already in the queue? SMH

  • Copy link
  • Flag this comment
  • Block
Charlie Stross
@cstross@wandering.shop replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@hjmiii I am an author. I am party to the Anthropic AI class action lawsuit (they stole my books for training their LLMs). I am not dispassionate on this issue!

  • Copy link
  • Flag this comment
  • Block
Harry Meier
@hjmiii@wandering.shop replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@cstross
Believe me, I get that. As an author still trying to break into trad publishing, the whole industry is a hellscape because of these nitwits. All the more reason to focus the righteous anger at the source, not punish some random dude who helps people fight back the enshitifying of ebooks in general.

  • Copy link
  • Flag this comment
  • Block
davecb 🇨🇦
@davecb@hachyderm.io replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@cstross Reported as an RFE:

[Enhancement] Make AI a selectable option

I am a ML programmer and author, and a heavy user of LLMs.

Please ensure that is an easy way to turn off "AI" features in Calibre, selectible on a feature-by-feature basis. It is surpassingly easy to dis-improve a product by using LLMs without making them available in a non-intrusive manner and looking at the uptake and bugs reported.

--dave

  • Copy link
  • Flag this comment
  • Block
Dan O'Ginnec
@DanKen@hessen.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@cstross

WTF does a library-software need AI for?

  • Copy link
  • Flag this comment
  • Block
Marcus M. 滅拉 マルクス🐧
@mocm@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@cstross As far as I can see there is no AI in calibre. You just can connect to various AI services if you want to. But if you don't want to and don't actively configure it you won't use any kind of AI. Or do I see that wrong?

  • Copy link
  • Flag this comment
  • Block
mathew
@mathew@universeodon.com replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@mocm @cstross People don’t want applications to promote AI use, even if it’s optional.

  • Copy link
  • Flag this comment
  • Block
Fooker
@Fooker@infosec.exchange replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@cstross WTF? Why? What could calibre need with spicy autocorrect? It takes in ebooks and copies it to ereaders... Fuck this AI everywhere bullshit, they know the bubble is about to burst.

  • Copy link
  • Flag this comment
  • Block
Jonas Wisser
@jwisser@wandering.shop replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@cstross No releases yet, though, so I'm *cautiously* optimistic.

  • Copy link
  • Flag this comment
  • Block
Daniel Düsentrieb
@theDuesentrieb@social.linux.pizza replied  ·  activity timestamp 3 days ago

@cstross great naming choice, and a shame that such a great foss project succumbs to ai integration

  • Copy link
  • Flag this comment
  • Block
Log in

Bonfire Dinteg Labs

This is a bonfire demo instance for testing purposes. This is not a production site. There are no backups for now. Data, including profiles may be wiped without notice. No service or other guarantees expressed or implied.

Bonfire Dinteg Labs: About · Code of conduct · Privacy ·
Bonfire social · 1.0.0 no JS en
Automatic federation enabled
  • Explore
  • About
  • Code of Conduct
Home
Login