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Elena Rossini 🔜 FOSDEM
@_elena@mastodon.social  ·  activity timestamp last week

RE: https://mastodon.social/@_elena/115943470860977033

Good morning Fedi friends!

Thank you to all the people who participated in my poll. I plan to write a blog post early next week about all the problematic aspects of #WSocial. And I grabbed a URL that makes for a perfect shortlink / redirect to the article.

Given the massive media coverage here in France, I strongly believe it's not wise to stay silent and wish W Social away.

Quick note: I'll be offline most of the day at a child's birthday party.

Have a great day! And yay Minnesota!

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Luca Sironi
@luca@sironi.xyz replied  ·  activity timestamp 7 days ago

@_elena

Until it does not materialize inside the institutions, I don't think it's relevant.
This thing seems pretty much unknown, no real information about the organization, the company, the business model.

Just a name and some ugly video @ Davos.

They're hoping / begging EU politicians to *move* from X.
European Commission already has blog/video instances and they don't use them.

The W target is some #bluesky european users who both understand the need of decentralization and are enthusiast to give to someone a copy of their documents and migrate.

Full crowds

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Aral Balkan
@aral@mastodon.ar.al replied  ·  activity timestamp 7 days ago

@_elena @MediaActivist Good shout. With venture capital funded startups you only have power at one point in their lifecycle: at the very start when they haven’t scaled yet and don’t yet have network effects. If you can kill their growth curve then, you can kill the startup. If, however, you “give them the benefit of the doubt” so they can use their initial cash injection to scale and achieve network effects, they’re set. They become another Facebook, X, etc. And they remain.

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Jay Baker
@MediaActivist@todon.eu replied  ·  activity timestamp 7 days ago

@aral @_elena That's a brilliant point.

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BrennpunktUA debunked 🕵🏻‍♀️
@BrennpunktUA@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 7 days ago

@_elena I 💯 agree, Elena! Maybe we should also send mastodon invitation codes (even if not required) to those who ask, as I did back then, when #Bluesky started? 😁😈

@hpod16 I absolutely recommend following @_elena 🙂

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BrennpunktUA debunked 🕵🏻‍♀️
@BrennpunktUA@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 7 days ago

@_elena place 4️⃣ in the (non personalized) Google search results for "WSocial" (at least from Germany). You did a great job! 😈 mastodon

@hpod16

Google search result showing a smart Mastodon propaganda site (w-social.eu) on place 4 on Google for "WSocial".
Google search result showing a smart Mastodon propaganda site (w-social.eu) on place 4 on Google for "WSocial".
Google search result showing a smart Mastodon propaganda site (w-social.eu) on place 4 on Google for "WSocial".
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BrennpunktUA debunked 🕵🏻‍♀️
@BrennpunktUA@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp 7 days ago

@_elena also, https://stage.wsocial.eu is a HUUUGE joke (but a bad one!)

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DoktorZjivago
@doktorzjivago@mastodonsweden.se replied  ·  activity timestamp last week

@_elena Sounds good! Oh and @Anders_S had some insight about the company / companies behind it after some thorough research. I’m sure you can ask him about it

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Daniel Artfors
@daniel@masto.art4.se replied  ·  activity timestamp last week

@_elena noting here in Sweden, and we are the ones who gonna admin it.

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Nicolas Hoizey
@nhoizey@mamot.fr replied  ·  activity timestamp last week

@_elena where did you see/ear "massive media coverage here in France"? I’m listening to France Info everyday for at least 30 minutes, and didn’t ear about W even once.

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Elena Rossini 🔜 FOSDEM
@_elena@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp last week

@nhoizey

screenshots of headline articles about W Social from 20 Minutes... Le Parisien... TF1 Info... Les Numériques... CNews... Europe 1 and Frandroid
screenshots of headline articles about W Social from 20 Minutes... Le Parisien... TF1 Info... Les Numériques... CNews... Europe 1 and Frandroid
screenshots of headline articles about W Social from 20 Minutes... Le Parisien... TF1 Info... Les Numériques... CNews... Europe 1 and Frandroid
screenshots of headlines about W Social from the French newspapers: Les Echos, Sud Ouest...
screenshots of headlines about W Social from the French newspapers: Les Echos, Sud Ouest...
screenshots of headlines about W Social from the French newspapers: Les Echos, Sud Ouest...
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Nicolas Hoizey
@nhoizey@mamot.fr replied  ·  activity timestamp 7 days ago

@_elena if they all talk about it once, it’s probably just because they all copy/paste AFP news, without much actual journalism.

This is why I try to get just one big relevant source and not read/listen to it too much.

Did some media talk about W multiple times?

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barning
@barning@norden.social replied  ·  activity timestamp last week

@_elena I think German media is not covering this. But is it an official platform by the EU or a random cash grab?

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Elena Rossini 🔜 FOSDEM
@_elena@mastodon.social replied  ·  activity timestamp last week

@barning half-baked attempt by a Swedish non-profit filled with rich people who launched it at Davos

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Tom Stoneham
@tomstoneham@dair-community.social replied  ·  activity timestamp last week

@_elena

Great work!

Presumably, like #EuroSky, it is a long way from launch.

So we need to leverage the noise/hype to get journalists and others to try #Mastodon out of curiosity and find something already mature and established.

#JoanMastodon

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