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- While most of us here are rightfully scornful of #Capitalism , the notion of a "market economy" is not going to go away. There are innumerable small to midsized businesses in the world who _aren't_ like the Capitalists we know and loathe - they haven't established any monopolies, they haven't managed regulatory capture, and they are oppressed by Big Tech just as much as ordinary people are.

- For many such businesses, maybe even the majority, a #Facebook Business Page is more important than a website, and thus many such small businesses _only_ have a Facebook Business Page, since it is far easier to set up than hosting your own website on your own domain, it is easier for your customers to find you there (because #GoogleSucks ), and it is easier for you to interact with your customers as well.

I think it would be very worthwhile if the Fediverse would develop an alternative to Facebook Business Pages for such businesses.

A good example for an industry that could benefit from such "Fediverse Business Pages" would be the #TTRPG industry. While some gamers might whine that "RPG books cost too much these days!", the reality is that this is an industry that has razor-thin margins, and only the very biggest TTRPG companies have employees that number more than in the single digits. Every business decision they have to make must involve the question:

"Is this worth the effort?"

Well, if there _was_ a Fediverse Business Page system that was either easy to self-host, or easy to join on larger instances, and which had a similar design to Facebook Business Pages, then there wouldn't be much effort involved in adding the same material to the former if they already maintained the latter. And as #Meta declines, the Fediverse could gradually take its place.

What would such a Fediverse Business Page require? It would need an ActivityPub-enabled feed, of course. It would need a configurable link list that would point towards their product pages or sales platforms, as well as space for all the usual business information. And it would require a robust scheduling system with a calendar view (I used the one provided by Meta for a time, and I think it is possible to do better).

Did I miss any important features?

Oh, and the same system would work well for non-business organizations as well - whether clubs, NGOs, or even political parties!

The Facebook Business Page for Pinnacle Entertainment Group.

The Facebook Business page for Free League Publishing.

The Paizo Facebook page, showing their latest news and products.

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Jürgen Hubert

@juergen_hubert@mementomori.social · 6 days ago

@nyquildotorg @deadsuperhero

We don't need to look to TikTok and so forth as inspiration for "monetizing the #FediVerse ".

Instead, think of small online businesses. My favorite example of this is the #ttrpg industry - the majority of companies are very small indeed.

And for them, it is vital that they can interact with their fans and customers. On #Facebook , they can do that via Facebook Business Pages, which provide a feed that regular Facebook users can intee

jer

@nyquildotorg@gts.nyquil.org · 6 days ago

@deadsuperhero I have bought things from people on the fediverse and commissioned things from several other people on the fediverse to keep making more stuff. I see people on the fediverse selling stuff every day.

I'm not sure you've really made the case for why you think these things need to happen on-platform, putting stuff like "dealing with taxes," "dealing with fraud" and "dealing with copyright violation" etc on the plates of platform administrators who already have too much to do.

It doesn't really seem like you've thought through what adding revenue and commerce to these platforms really entails.

To me it sounds like you're really making two arguments simultaneously: the first is that we need to financially incentivise people to join the fediverse and perform here, and the second is that people need to be able to support each other by buying and selling and commissioning.

Only the first of those arguments requires monetization of the platform, so it kinda seems like you're lumping those other things in to kind of support your main argument. (That we need to "monetize" so that we can attract TikTok and YouTube stars, who expect to be paid.)

Is it really that important to entice people who don't want to publish here to do so?

Jürgen Hubert

@juergen_hubert@mementomori.social replied · 6 days ago

@nyquildotorg @deadsuperhero

We don't need to look to TikTok and so forth as inspiration for "monetizing the #FediVerse ".

Instead, think of small online businesses. My favorite example of this is the #ttrpg industry - the majority of companies are very small indeed.

And for them, it is vital that they can interact with their fans and customers. On #Facebook , they can do that via Facebook Business Pages, which provide a feed that regular Facebook users can intee